Debs Paterson is a multi-award-winning director of premier drama shows - especially fantasy and sci-fi - for the likes of Netflix, Showtime and now Disney+.
But her journey to the top required exceptional levels of resilience, persistence and positivity.
John McKenna is one of the pioneers of premium sports documentaries. He founded Noah Media, which has become the go-to company for producing smash hit feature-docs like Arsene Wenger: Invincible and making title sequences for major shows and sports federations
Having sold our business to Future Plc, both Alex and I left to pursue other projects in 2020 and 2021 respectively.
So it was a delight to come back together again, to reminisce on our amazing shared journey and to record this podcast.